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A new poll was posted on ubuntuforums.org, probably trying to gauge if the anti-Automatix propoganda on the forum is working or not.

Anyway, it kind of made me chuckle when I saw that the results are still good for Automatix, and the positive posts are still there. A few members including staff have been on a crusade lately to attack Automatix so it made my day.

You should see how the little Ubuntuites on the forum swarm over an Automatix thread and post their “obviously knowledgable” reports of how a friend’s dog’s mum’s neighbour said that A-X broke not only Ubuntu but the kitchen sink as well, Lol!

To be fair, Ubuntu is aimed at new users, it’s kind of like a pretend Linux distro now if you compare it to the likes of Debian and BSD etc, so you can’t blame these inexperienced learners for blaming A-X, bless ‘em. They’ll understand a bit more when they read up on dpkg and apt.

Anyway, here’s the link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=518244

Contrary to the wave of Anti-Automatix posts/reviews/bloggs/comments, an actual poll on ubuntuforums.org shows that the users themselves clearly support it with by an overwhelming 52.11%. It is also interesting that 7.28% who had a problem didn’t even bother to file a bug report or advise the A-X devs. Linux needs feedback to improve, not whinging.

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For those of you who live in caves without access to a computer or civilisation in any way shape or form, you may not of heard about the Ubuntu weekly newsletter. It’s been plugged enough on Digg and Ubuntu Forums, so you should have heard something about it.

You can see the newsletter on the Ubuntuforums or on the wiki page.

I can’t list everything it includes, as I haven’t got a spare 3-4 hours. I will however, say that it is well laid out, well written and very informative. If you want to keep up to date with everything Ubuntu, now you can.

Rich

Why Automatix When There Is Easy Codecs Installation On Ubuntu Feisty?

Ubuntu Feisty Fawn 7.04 introduced a new feature to aid in the installation of codecs called Easy Codecs. We on the Automatix team applaud The Ubuntu developers on making codecs installation easier on a distro that aims to be free in both senses. You may be wondering why there is still a need for Automatix at this point. This page is here to answer that question in detail.
What Is Easy Codecs Installation On Ubuntu Feisty?

Easy codecs installation is a feature in Ubuntu 7.04 which aims to automate the installation of certain codecs when a user tries to play an unsupported file. ECI works by asking the user if they want to install some of the unsupported gstreamer codecs to activate playback ability. ECI requires the user to keep the Totem-gstreamer engine in order to function. If you replace Totem-gstreamer with Totem-xine this feature will not work.

What Is ECI Missing That Automatix Offers?

Let us start here by saying that most Ubuntu users prefer Totem-xine over Totem-gstreamer. Totem-gstreamer has made great strides in quality over the past few years but is still not at the same overall level of the xine backend. Video playback with gstreamer both from DVD’s and on the web are still not up to par with its xine counterpart (though they can co-exist harmoniously and Automatix makes careful choices to make sure that the end user gets the ultimate in terms of offline and online multimedia experience). Most users also prefer to add MPlayer and it’s Firefox plugin for web video playback over Totem’s offering which comes installed by default on Ubuntu. ECI does not provide these options. Hence, the user will still be required to install and configure both MPlayer and its plugin to make them work correctly with browsers. Automatix does these things for you with a simple click of a mouse.

Here are SOME codecs that Automatix installs that you will not get with ECI.

* gstreamer10-fluendo-mp3
* gstramer10-gl
* gstreamer10-gnonlin
* gstreamer10-plugins-bad (ECI does install gs10-plugins-bad-multiverse)
* gstreamer10-plugins-ugly
* gstreamer10-plugins-ugly-multiverse
* gstreamer10-sdl
* lame (MP3 decoder)
* sox
* mjpegtools
* vorbistools
* mpg321
* libxine-main1
* libxine-extracodecs
* faac
* faad
* alsa-oss
* oss-compat
* libdivx0-binary(i386 only)
* libdivxencore0-binary(i386 only)
* libdivxdecore0-binary(i386 only)
* libk3b2-mp3
* beep-media-player-wma (If you have Beep Media Player installed)

This means you will get much better overall multimedia support with Automatix than by using ECI.

Codecs already installed by ECI will still be installed if choosing to use Automatix afterwards.

What Other Things Can Automatix Do?

Automatix is more than a multimedia and codecs installer. It is a tool to help the end user tweak their entire system quickly and easily for the most efficient use. Here is a list of things Automatix can do besides just install codecs and multimedia applications.

* Automatix can install and configure video card, printer, wireless, and webcam drivers
* Automatix can install and configure NTFS read and write support.
* Automatix can install and configure web browsers and plugins.
* Automatix can install and configure fonts for better web and document compatibility with other platforms. (Windows and Mac).
* Automatix can install extras not found any where else like Nautilus Scripts (some of which have been written by Automatix devs).
* Automatix can install and configure software not found in the Ubuntu repositories.
* Automatix sometimes replaces packages found in Ubuntu Universe/Multiverse with ones that are less buggy and of better quality from the developers web site and hosts them on its own site.
* Automatix can install and configure virtualization software like VirtualBox and VMWare Player.
* Automatix can install and configure Wine (Direct from the developers repo so it is much newer than what is in the Ubuntu repositories).
* Automatix can install commercial software like CrossOver Office.
* Automatix on AMD64 can safely install a 32-bit web browser, alongside your current 64-bit web browser, and have all the standard codecs (Adobe Flash 9, Sun Java 6, RealPlayer 10, Acrobat Reader 7, MPlayer).
* Automatix on AMD64 can also install a variety of 32-bit software like Skype, Swiftfox, RealPlayer 10, Adobe Acrobat 7, and Google Earth.

We could keep going but we think you get the point. Automatix does so much more than install codecs. In fact Automatix does much more than what is listed above. If you want to know everything that Automatix can do for you just visit the Software and Tweaks page for more details.

Ubuntu is still causing breakage according to Ubuntu users on the official ubuntuforums.org poll.

344 people voted
Upgraded = 129 with problems/ 87 without
Clean Install = 72 with problems/ 56 without

View Poll Results: How’s Fiesty working for you?

I upgraded to Feisty and everything is fine. 87 25.29%
I upgraded. Had a few problems (drivers, hardware, etc) but got them fixed. 49 14.24%
I upgraded. Had/Still having a lot of problems 80 23.26%
I did a clean install and everything is fine. 56 16.28%
Did clean install. Had a few problems (drivers, hardware, etc) but got them fixed. 27 7.85%
Did clean install. Had/Still having a lot of problems. 45 13.08%

This is something that plagues Ubuntu every six months with the latest release available. It’s a shame because they are really trying hard to live up to the “ready for the desktop” name and “The Newbie Distro” but it just ain’t happening.

So it appears that Ubuntu isn’t quite as ready as we thought, nor is it newbie friendly. Canonical should have really thought about whether the devs could come up with the goods before the “Newbie Friendly” marketing came into play.

I know a lot of people who have crossed over to Debian Etch now that it has evolved and become very easy to install and setup. The stability of Debian is something that seems a long way away from Ubuntu’s reach.

General

- Ubuntu Weekly Newsletter (UWN)
- Community Documentation
- Ubuntu or Kubuntu on a USB drive
- More on the above
- Illustrated Dual Boot
- Psychocat’s Ubuntu Linux Resources
- Debian and Ubuntu runlevels
- How to do almost anything on Ubuntu
- Tips and tweaks

Getting Started

- Switching from Windows
- Breezy Badger Starter Guide
- Dapper Drake Starter Guide
- Edgy Eft Starter Guide
- Edgy Eft How-To
- Support and Typical Problems

Installation / Configuration

- How to install ANYTHING in Ubuntu!
- Firefox & Thunderbird icon
- Enabling Extra Repositories
- Edgy Eft Complete Sources List
- Installing Java
- My Ubuntu Installation
- Galternatives - graphical setup tool for Alternatives Configuration in Ubuntu
- Triple boot XP, Vista, and Ubuntu
- Restoring GRUB with the Ubuntu Live CD
- Edgy Common problems with Solutions
- Configure GRUB and usplash
- Flash Player 9 Beta on Ubuntu Edgy
- The perfect setup- Ubuntu 6.10 Edgy Eft
- The perfect setup- Ubuntu 6.06 Dapper Drake
- Managing Packages with Synaptic, the easy way
- Bypassing the Ubuntu login screen
- StartUp-Manager - Configure GRUB and Usplash
- Change the color of your tooltips
- Installing on a low memory system
- Installing with no CD-ROM drive
- Managing fsck scans on startup

Desktop

- Installing XFCE desktop
- Setup Desktop/Eyecandy. Tips’n'Tricks.
- Eye Candy, More of it
- Flickr images as wallpaper
- Creat GNOME Menu Entries
- Microsoft Core,Windows Truetype,Ubuntu Title,Macintosh Fonts in Ubuntu
- Setting up Fluxbox and ROX-Filer in Ubuntu Edgy

Applications

- Quake 3 on Ubuntu Edgy x86-64
- Backing up and Restoring Ubuntu
- Cross platform Calendar (Sunbird)
- Install VLC media player
- Installing mplayer
- Tapioca
- Backing up and restoring your ubuntu system using sbackup
- Installing Spellbound
- Ubuntu Repositories on DVD
- Gmail notifier for Ubuntu
- Installing and Using gftp
- Creating your own sources.list

Networking

- Install rp-pppoe 3.8 (Roaring Penguin)
- Network traffic analyzer
- Monitor Servers and Clients using Munin
- Network,Server statistics graphing Using Cacti
- Enable WPA Wireless access point in Ubuntu Linux
- Ubuntu LAMP Server Installation With Screenshots
- Wardriving Using A Ubuntu Notebook With Garmin Etrex, Kismet, And GPSDrive (Breezy)
- Instaling Ruby on Rails
- Basic and Advanced Networking
- Network Traffic Analyzer
- Enabling WPA access Point
- Sharing folders with ease

Security

- Root/Sudo
- Running Sudo Graphically
- Managing Users
- Securely Administring Remote Machines Using Freenx in Ubuntu
- Firestarter Firewall
- ClamAV
- Installing AVG Antivirus
- Keeping your Ubuntu server secure
- Locking your system down

Hardware

- Hardware Database
- Laptop Support
- Dialup Modem Howto
- Put your laptop to sleep
- Iomega ATAPI/IDE Zip Drive
- More ZIP Drive info
- Canon iXXX series printers
- Canon PIXMA IP4000 drivers
- Canon Pixma iP4200 More
- UDEV/SCSI Scanner Configuration
- Brother Printer / Scanner
- Hp Printer Installation And Maintenance Dapper
- Recovering data from damaged hard disks and CD/DVDs

FAQs

- Common Questions
- Recovering Ubuntu After Installing Windows
- Partitions and Booting
- Mounting a NTFS partition R/W with NTFS-3G

Advanced

- Compiling a kernel the Ubuntu way
- Running ASP.NET applications in Ubuntu
- Installing Asterisk from standard packages on Ubuntu LTS (6.06)
- Bryl and XGL with an ATI card

Extras (not supported by Ubuntu)

- Automatix
- Installing Automatix
- The Automatix Wiki
- Easy Automatix installation
- EasyUbuntu script

I just thought that I would take the time to dispell a few myths about Automatix doing the rounds.

Myth Number 1
Someone said that all the stuff is on unofficial repos, and that can break my system
Installing any unsupported software from Multiverse or Universe can cause breakage. If you are worried about breakage then you should never install any software from these sources and stick with the supported software available in the default Ubuntu repos. Stick with the strictly free software and avoid codecs, flash, sun-java, mplayer etc etc etc to avoid breakage.

Even then that is no guarantee since Ubuntu’s own security and kernel updates have broken both Dapper and Edgy on many occasions. Ubuntu does a excellent job of breaking things on their own.

There is one repo hosted by getautomatix.com, which as you can see for yourselves is hardly packed with breakable apps Click Here

Myth Number 2
It changes things in your system which causes breakage.
Automatix leaves your sources intact and adds the official sources you have commented out. It also adds the Automatix repo for updates of Automatix and the packages hosted on their server. If you choose to install wine, the wine sources from the official wine repository are added. Google Picasa comes from the google repos but depends on nothing therefore it will not cause breakage by installing it.

Installing drivers is the only thing that Automatix changes on your system. EasyUbuntu does this also as does installing them yourself.

**Automatix gives you the ability to restore your sources to their original condition and undo any changes at any time you wish.**

Myth Number 3
It breaks Synaptic and Apt
Apt and Synaptic are quite capable of breaking themselves without the help of Automatix, this is Ubuntu we are talking about here people. Things break, why do you think ubuntuforums have 350,000 members and the biggest beginners section known to man? because things break, it’s Linux, that’s the fun of it.

Myth Number 4
You should always install things the official Ubuntu way
You should always do with Linux what you damn well please !! The whole filosophy is freedom to choose how you want to run and configure your system. As soon as you start getting dictated to and following orders…. just go back to Windows, as soon as you take orders from somebody on a Linux forum who has a higher post count than you, just give up because you’ve missed what Linux is all about.

Myth Number 5
Using Automatix causes breakages when dist-upgrading to a new version of Ubuntu
Ubuntu breaks Ubuntu when dist-upgrading. I don’t care what os you use, in place upgrading will break things. This is true of Windows, Mac and Linux. Every expert and most Ubuntu devs will tell it is always preferable to do a fresh install when upgrading to avoid problems.

Those who claim Automatix causes all that breaking are being dishonest with you. Absolutely Automatix or any and all software you installed can contribute to breakage when dist-upgrading. But Automatix is by no means any more or less responsible than any other software installed for borked upgrades including supported software.

Make your own choices, be different, innovate, be creative, use what Linux has to offer for your benefit and then share it with others.

IF you have any problems at all you will find quick solutions on the official Automatix Forums

You can also ask experienced Linux users of their experiences HERE as well.

Well, it has finally arrived. I just received the news from ArnieBoy on Linux Mod-Free Forums.

How Good Is Automatix2 ?
Listen to me when I tell you, that Automatix2 is awesome. I have installed and tested it on Dapper, Edgy and now Feisty without a single hitch. I cannot say the same for EasyUbuntu however.

How Many People Use It?
I don’t have to sell Automatix2, the amount of users currently installing their software via this newbie-marvel is believed to be around 2,000,000.

Is It Hard To Install?
Ok, so what’s to it? yeah….. ok, you download the .deb file from here:-
Automatix2-FOR-UBUNTU-FEISTY-FAWN

Then….. wait for it….. you just “double-click” it. Yup that’s it !!! How difficult Linux is nowadays, pfft!

Automatix2 will install itself, then you just go to the Applications > System Tools menu, and there it is.

What Can Automatix Do For Me?
Here’s the best bit, just checkout the list of stuff that this little baby will install for you !!!! Unbelievable, this is the beauty of Automatix, you just choose what you want, click yes, then go and make a coffee. Come back after half an hour (If you installed as much as I did ;)) and hey presto you have got a multimedia beast of a machine.

    Here’s what you can get done for you the Automatix2 way :-
  • Burning and Ripping

    1. Brasero (Advanced and user-friendly CD burning tool for Gnome)
    2. DVD Ripper (a GTK based DVD ripping software)
    3. Gnomebaker (The best GTK2 CD/DVD burning software)
    4. k9copy (KDE based DVD backup software)
    5. Ripper and Tuner (Streamtuner (Internet radio client) and Streamripper (rips Internet radio streams, configured by automatix) )
    6. xDVDshrink (Linux counterpart of DVDshrink) –> Package hosted and maintained by Automatix

    Chat Clients

    1. aMSN (MSN client with webcam support) –> Package hosted and maintained by Automatix
    2. Gaim 2.0 beta3 (The latest version of a popular IM client compatible with YIM/MSN/AIM/Jabber etc)
    3. GyachI (Yahoo Messenger client with voice and video support) –> Package hosted and maintained by Automatix (i386 only)
    4. Skype (A free (as in free beer) Voice Over IP software) (32 bit for amd64)
    5. XChat (a popular IRC client)

    Commercial Software

    Please refer to: http://www.getautomatix.com/wiki/index.php?title=Commercial_Software (i386 only)
    Drivers

    1. foo2js drivers (Installs drivers for the following printers:Minolta magicolor 2200/2300/2430 DL and HP LaserJet 1018/1020/1022) (i386 only)
    2. Lightscribe support for Linux (i386 only)
    3. NDISWrapper (A driver wrapper that allows you to use Windows driver for network cards)
    4. NVIDIA Driver (Installs NVIDIA drivers on select NVIDIA cards)
    5. spca5xx webcam drivers (Installs drivers for USB webcams with chipsets including Sunplus, Z-star/Vimicro, Sonix, Etoms, Conexant, Zoran, IcMedia/TransVision, Pixart) (i386 only)

    Email Clients

    1. Checkgmail (A nifty system tray based gmail checker)
    2. Korn (A KDE universal E-mail notifier for the panel (Works with Gmail too)
    3. Mozilla Thunderbird (Email client)

    Eye candy

    1. Gdesklets (desktop eyecandy for Gnome)
    2. Superkaramba (desktop eyecandy for KDE)

    File sharing

    1. aMule (P2P file sharing client)
    2. Azureus (Java-based bittorrent client)
    3. Bittornado (Gnome based bittorrent cleint)
    4. DCPP (Linux Dc++ Client) –> Package hosted and maintained by Automatix (i386 only)
    5. Frostwire (P2P file sharing client (GPL clone of Limewire)) –> Package hosted and maintained by Automatix (32 bit for amd64)

    Media Players and Editors

    1. Audacity (a versatile audio editor)
    2. Avidemux (Video Editing Tool)
    3. Beep Media Player (A classic winamp style audio player)
    4. Democracy Player (Internet TV platform)
    5. Easytag (A versatile mp3 tag editor)
    6. Exaile (Amarok like Music Manager for Gnome)
    7. Kino (Video editing Tool)
    8. DVD Ripper (DVD ripper)
    9. Listen Media Manager (Gnome based)
    10. RealPlayer (linux port) (32 bit for amd64)
    11. Songbird (Music manager touted to be an iTunes killer)
    12. Totem-xine (Media player for Gnome)
    13. VLC Media Player
    14. iLinux (free iLife alternatives (fspot/banshee/kino and assorted iPod libraries)

    Miscellaneous

    1. Automatix read/write NTFS and FAT32 mounter (Mounts all NTFS and FAT32 partitions for read write access) (i386 only)
    2. Ctrl-Alt-Del (This configures Ctrl-Alt-Del to Open Gnome System Monitor (GNOME ONLY))
    3. Debian Menu (Shows all installed applications on your system)
    4. Extra Fonts (Additional fonts and msttcorefonts)
    5. KDE extras (a collection of KDE themes addons, icons, themes and kdeadmin)
    6. Nautilus Scripts (Open Nautilus, and any file with gedit with a right click, as root (GNOME ONLY))
    7. Slab (Novell’s “Slab” menu used in SLED 10)

    Multimedia Codecs

    1. AUD-DVD codecs (NON-FREE Audio and DVD codecs) (Installation of this option is illegal in the United States of America)
    2. Flashplayer (Adobe Flash Player for FF) (i386 only)
    3. MPlayer & FF plugin (MPlayer and Firefox plugin)
    4. Multimedia Codecs (Commonly needed audio and video codecs)
    5. SUN JAVA 1.6 JRE (Sun’s version 1.6 JRE & The Firefox plugin)
    6. Swiftfox Plugins (Java, Flash, Acrobat, Mplayer, MS fonts) (32 bit for amd64)

    Office

    1. Acrobat Reader (Adobe Acrobat Reader and plugin for Firefox)
    2. GIMP (Free image manipulation software)
    3. Kmymoney (A KDE money managing application)
    4. Knode & Kilibido (KDE news reader and klibido a usenet binary grabber)
    5. Krusader (A popular KDE file manager)
    6. Kftpgrabber (FTP client for KDE)
    7. Kweather (A KDE Panel weather applet)
    8. Google Earth (Satellite Earth imagery application from Google) (32 bit for amd64)
    9. Google Picasa (Photo editing application from Google) (i386 only)
    10. GnuCash (Money management software for GNOME)
    11. OpenOffice Clipart (clipart in OpenOffice)

    Programming Tools

    1. Anjuta (C/C++ IDE)
    2. Bluefish (HTML editor)
    3. Gambas (IDE with a similar feel as Visual Basic)
    4. Kile (Integrated LaTex IDE)
    5. MonoDevelop (C#/Boo/Java/Nemerle/ILasm Development environment)
    6. NVU (HTML editor)
    7. Screem (website development environment)
    8. Scribus (Desktop Publishing software)
    9. Stanis Python Editor (Python IDE)
    10. Sun Java JDK 1.6

    Utilities

    1. Archiving Tools (Additional archiving tools (rar, unrar, ace, and 7zip))
    2. Backup and Restore (A graphical backup and restore solution for Ubuntu (GNOME))
    3. Beagle (A Mono-based search program)
    4. Boot-up Manager (Easy configuration of startup and shutdown scripts and services)
    5. GFTP (FTP client for GNOME with ssh capability)
    6. Glipper (Gnome’s clipboard manager)
    7. Gnome Security Suite (clamav antivirus and firestarter firewall)
    8. GnomePPP (Graphical dialup connection tool (GNOME ONLY))
    9. KDE Security Suite (Guarddog Firewall and Clam Antivirus)
    10. Kftpgrabber (FTP client for KDE)
    11. Liferea (A RSS reader for GNOME)
    12. Network Manager (A program and menu applet that allows you to easily change networks)
    13. Truecrypt and Forcefield (Transparent volume encryption and its python interface) –> Packages hosted and maintained by Automatix (i386 only)

    Virtualization

    1. VirtualBox (OS emulating platform) (i386 only)
    2. VMware Player (OS emulating platform)
    3. Wine (runs some windows applications) (i386 only)

    Web Browsers

    1. Opera Browser (Opera Web Browser) (i386 only)
    2. Swiftfox Browser (optimized Firefox browser for your specific CPU) (32 bit for amd64)

    Automatix2 on Mepis i386

    1. K9copy (CD/DVD software)
    2. Kile (A KDE intergrated latex enviroment)
    3. Knode & Kilibido (KDE news reader and klibido a usenet binary grabber)
    4. Koffice 1.5.1 (A KDE Alternative to Open Office and the newest version)
    5. Kopete (The KDE equivilent to GAIM)
    6. Krusader (A popular KDE file manager)
    7. Kftpgrabber (FTP client for KDE)
    8. Korn (A universal email notifier that works with gmail)
    9. Superkaramba (Eye candy for KDE)
    10. RAR, ACE P7zip and UNRAR archive support
    11. Acrobat reader 7 and firefox plugin for the same.
    12. Frostwire (GPL clone of Limewire)
    13. Multimedia editors (Audacity (audio), EasyTag (ID3))
    14. DVD (dvdrip) ripper
    15. Mplayer and mplayer plugin for Firefox
    16. Xine-UI, and VLC player
    17. Opera Browser 9.0
    18. Avidemux (Video editing tool) (New version 2.1.0)
    19. GIMP
    20. Programming Tools (Anjuta (C/C++ IDE), Bluefish (HTML editor), Screem (Web Development Env.) and NVU (HTML editor))
    21. MS true type fonts
    22. Streamripper and Streamtuner
    23. NON-FREE audio and dvd codecs
    24. Ndiswrapper WIFI software
    25. Checkgmail (A system try icon that alerts you to new mail in your Gmail account)
    26. Wine (u need to run winecfg manually after installation)
    27. AMSN 0.95 (MSN client with webcam support)
    28. Swiftfox (A CPU specific version of Firefox optimized to be faster)
    29. Swiftfox Plugins (The same plugins as in Firefox)
    30. Amule (A opensource Emule/Edonkey P2P clone)
    31. iLinux (banshee, Fspot)
    32. Openoffice Clipart
    33. Konversation
    34. Kmymoney
    35. Kwifimanager
    36. KDE Extras - (Kdeaddons, Icons, Themes, Wallpapers, Screensavers and Kdeadmin)
    37. Kdegames
    38. VMware-Player
    39. Google Picasa

  • I know, just too much isn’t it ?

    Get more information at www.getautomatix.com

    Worried About The Bad Things That Others Say About Automatix ?
    If you are a regular at www.ubuntuforums.org you will know about the conflicts of interest between Automatix and EasyUbuntu, and you will also know that there are ubuntuforums staff members who will try to steer new Linux users away from Automatix due to their bias towards their EasyUbuntu friends. Don’t listen, just choose what’s best for you, Linux is about open source, open mind and freedom of choice.

    Rich

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